Mudge, front man for the L0pht, founder of @stake, author of L0phtCrack, and a pioneer in vulnerability discovery and disclosure still calls himself a "hacker". As a senior DoD official working as a Program Manager at DARPA (the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency) he is designing and funding cyber research programs for the U.S. Government. He is additionally working to build areas of aligned interest between the cyber security research community and the government so that both parties can better become resources to each other where appropriate and more articulately convey divergent beliefs and goals in others.