People keep talking about Thunderbolt DMA attacks as though they're a foregone conclusion. Thus far, we haven't seen one that doesn't involve using a Thunderbolt to FireWire adapter. This kind of attack, when performed against current hardware, is subject to the same limitations and mitigations as the FireWire DMA attacks we've seen since Kiwicon's very own Metlstorm winlockpwned his way to fame in 2006. In this talk, rzn and snare will discuss their approach to attacking systems with a Thunderbolt port. Will our heroes triumph over evil, or will they get hit by a bus?