After cancelling his RSA talk in protest, Mikko delivered his talk on Goverments as Malware Authors at TrustyCon instead. This follow-up talk will look at what's changed since then, and what new we have learned about governments that write malware. Which governments are involved? Where do they get the skills? How big are the budgets for this? And, most importantly: do we have any hope of fighting malwareof this caliber?